| Author |
Message |
|
Lex
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:54 am Posts: 14243 Location: Stratford
|
I really don't know what the fuss about the NI backstop is all about, it'll only come into force of the UK can't agree a trade deal with the EU (negotiations for which haven't started yet, all the palaver over the last 3 years is the the withdrawal treaty): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49427674
|
| Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:42 pm |
|
 |
|
rebbonk
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:10 pm Posts: 9667 Location: Coventry
|
I think there's a train of thought that it gives the upper hand in future negotiations to the EU and possibly is a disincentive to them to strike a deal.
I still have thoughts that we won't actually leave
_________________ Of course it'll fit, you just need a bigger hammer.
|
| Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:47 pm |
|
 |
|
Lex
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:54 am Posts: 14243 Location: Stratford
|
Makes sense, I'd not heard that.
|
| Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:08 pm |
|
 |
|
margaret
|
Didn't John Major Prorogue Parliament in 1997 or thereabouts?
It looks as thought Boris will get his way with suspending Parliament and the Queen is to make a speech on Oct 14th.
|
| Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:26 pm |
|
 |
|
rebbonk
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:10 pm Posts: 9667 Location: Coventry
|
margaret wrote: Didn't John Major Prorogue Parliament in 1997 or thereabouts? He did. IIRC it was to stop a report on his sleaze ridden government being published. And of course his faux outrage at Boris' actions makes him a bl**dy great hypocrite. I can't say I'm happy at what I see Boris doing here. One of the reasons for leaving the EU is to bring control back to our Parliament. This seems a rather hypocritical and cynical move.
_________________ Of course it'll fit, you just need a bigger hammer.
|
| Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:07 pm |
|
 |
|
Lex
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:54 am Posts: 14243 Location: Stratford
|
Whichever way it was going to turn, democracy was going to be sidelined. Comrade Corbyn was effectively trying to use Parliamentary procedure to stage a coup by forming a 'Government of National Unity' to lever himself into power & cancel Brexit full stop.
|
| Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:47 pm |
|
 |
|
rebbonk
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:10 pm Posts: 9667 Location: Coventry
|
Absolutely right Lex, democracy is always the first casualty. - History shows that quite clearly.
_________________ Of course it'll fit, you just need a bigger hammer.
|
| Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:42 pm |
|
 |
|
margaret
|
|
| Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:23 am |
|
 |
|
Lex
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:54 am Posts: 14243 Location: Stratford
|
Fan-bloody-tastic. Our elected representatives can't be bothered even paying lip service to democracy any more. So much for the will of the people.
|
| Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:33 pm |
|
 |
|
rebbonk
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:10 pm Posts: 9667 Location: Coventry
|
We certainly live in interesting times.
I'd like to say that I think all of these shenanigans will result in substantial changes to our political system, but I'll not go holding my breath.
For a long time I've believed that our democracy is an illusion, nothing is really challenging that view.
_________________ Of course it'll fit, you just need a bigger hammer.
|
| Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:43 pm |
|
 |
|
Lex
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:54 am Posts: 14243 Location: Stratford
|
There'll be no change - too much self serving & too many vested interests.
|
| Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:55 pm |
|
 |
|
margaret
|
|
| Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:04 pm |
|
 |
|
margaret
|
|
| Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:40 am |
|
 |
|
Lex
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:54 am Posts: 14243 Location: Stratford
|
Well, that's that done & dusted; it's just got to get past the idiots in Parliament now: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50079385
|
| Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:44 pm |
|
 |
|
rebbonk
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:10 pm Posts: 9667 Location: Coventry
|
It'll never pass, it's worse than May's 'deal'!
_________________ Of course it'll fit, you just need a bigger hammer.
|
| Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:09 pm |
|
 |
|
rebbonk
Pillar of the Community
Joined: Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:10 pm Posts: 9667 Location: Coventry
|
As a brexiteer, I have to say that I'm truly disgusted by what appears to be extremely bad grace from Johnson, sending an unsigned letter to the EU: plus another letter basically asking for them to not agree an extension.
I want out, but it must be done via Parliament: let's face it, one of our reasons for leaving was to take back control. I really don't like underhand politics like this and I pray that this is not what the future holds.
_________________ Of course it'll fit, you just need a bigger hammer.
|
| Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:51 pm |
|
|