My thoughts exactly Rebbonk, depressing as it is.

A deal's been reached on this stage, but there's still a good chance it can get scuppered: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42277040

From my understanding, we've been sold down the river. We're to be fully 'aligned' to the EU but not in it.

I only hope that the whole rotten lot comes tumbling down, and I wish lots of very unpleasant things happen to Treason May.

To me, all this palaver over the Eire/Ulster border sounds like an attempt at the 1st step towards reuniting the 2 parts of Ireland: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43277181

I wondered that from the beginning Lex. I can't see it happening though. But what I can see happening is Eire pulling out of the EU. That would end the problem.

I was working in Belfast at the time Eire was contemplating joining the Euro. They were telling me that if Eire did adopt the Euro many would move across the border to NI because everything would be so much cheaper. - I don't know how many did move.

I can't see the government agreeing to a completely open border, mostly because the Unionists would dump them right in the cesspit.

Good to see some progress being made: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43456502

What a shambles; the Government should just throw the towel in & give up the way things are going - the UK's going to get a terrible deal: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44770847

I saw Redwood and another MP on TV today. They both said roughly the same thing. Stop all negotiations now and tell the EU that we're leaving on WTO terms and will pay up only our legal obligations. Of course, the EU are then cordially invited to make a deal with us...

Everyone knows exactly where they stand and the EU can sort itself out filling the financial black-hole that we leave behind.

Another point well made was that all the bleating big businesses have very strong links back to Germany, so it's hardly surprising they lean that way.

Another crisis in the offing. And people think we should think we should stay in the EU: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48258720

I think the Germans have a word for this... schadenfreude

Can Boris do it?

I truly dread Boris becoming PM. The man's a complete clown and buffoon: we need a statesman to repair the damage that May has done to our world standing.