Topic review - Janner not to face the courts - This stinks
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Lex
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:33 am
Yes, I was actually taken aback - it turned out it seemed he was as ill as he had claimed!
Yes, I was actually taken aback - it turned out it seemed he was as ill as he had claimed!
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rebbonk
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:06 pm
I don't think he'll improve from this one Lex... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35142675Damned convenient though! And I believe this is the game the authorities are playing. Stretching things out so those implicated snuff it.
I don't think he'll improve from this one Lex...
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35142675[/url]
Damned convenient though!
And I believe this is the game the authorities are playing. Stretching things out so those implicated snuff it.
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Lex
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:54 pm
With a bit of luck, there will be a lot of squirming. No doubt, Janner's condition will improve greatly once the trial's over.
With a bit of luck, there will be a lot of squirming. No doubt, Janner's condition will improve greatly once the trial's over.
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rebbonk
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:18 am
Oh what a surprise... Quote: Lord Janner is unfit to stand trial over allegations of child sexual abuse spanning four decades, a High Court judge has ruled.
Mr Justice Openshaw told the Old Bailey the 87-year-old peer had "advanced and disabling dementia".
Both prosecution and defence barristers had agreed at a previous hearing that Greville Janner was not well enough to take part in a criminal trial. BBCI wonder if we'll see an investigation as to why he wasn't prosecuted when the chance was there? Mind you, a trial of the facts might still leave a few squirming.
Oh what a surprise...
[quote]Lord Janner is unfit to stand trial over allegations of child sexual abuse spanning four decades, a High Court judge has ruled.
Mr Justice Openshaw told the Old Bailey the 87-year-old peer had "advanced and disabling dementia".
Both prosecution and defence barristers had agreed at a previous hearing that Greville Janner was not well enough to take part in a criminal trial.[/quote] [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35027705]BBC[/url]
I wonder if we'll see an investigation as to why he wasn't prosecuted when the chance was there?
Mind you, a trial of the facts might still leave a few squirming.
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rebbonk
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:23 am
Quote from a website I use... Quote: No-one dresses their dad like a clown to go to court. Nor do they loudly announce when leaving the court that "We're going home for some ice-cream daddy." I guess you understand the drift of the way things are going on that site? 
Quote from a website I use...
[quote]No-one dresses their dad like a clown to go to court. Nor do they loudly announce when leaving the court that "We're going home for some ice-cream daddy."[/quote]
I guess you understand the drift of the way things are going on that site? ;)
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rebbonk
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:00 pm
So he finally turned up! BBCSadly, I can't help thinking that there's a bit of a charade going on here. I doubt those making the allegations will see adequate closure. What I do hope though, is that this case will help to flush out some of the 'establishment' that have helped cover up child abuse over the years. And I don't for one minute believe that paedophilia ran through the establishment in the 70s. but has miraculously stopped since. Younger offenders will have replaced the older ones.
So he finally turned up!
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33931860]BBC[/url]
Sadly, I can't help thinking that there's a bit of a charade going on here. I doubt those making the allegations will see adequate closure.
What I do hope though, is that this case will help to flush out some of the 'establishment' that have helped cover up child abuse over the years. And I don't for one minute believe that paedophilia ran through the establishment in the 70s. but has miraculously stopped since. Younger offenders will have replaced the older ones.
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rebbonk
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:28 pm
Looks like he's appearing in court tomorrow after he lost his high court appeal BBC
Looks like he's appearing in court tomorrow after he lost his high court appeal
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33909697]BBC[/url]
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rebbonk
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:36 pm
The 'establishment' is rotten to the core. A few sacrificial lambs will be thrown out in order to appease the masses whilst the hardcore paedo's go unchallenged and unpunished.
The bottom line is, if the masses were told the truth, there'd be riots and lynchings.
The 'establishment' is rotten to the core. A few sacrificial lambs will be thrown out in order to appease the masses whilst the hardcore paedo's go unchallenged and unpunished.
The bottom line is, if the masses were told the truth, there'd be riots and lynchings.
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Lex
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:31 pm
A similar thing is happening around the late Ted Heath. As soon as the accusations start flying (is it 5 or 7 police forces investigating him?), our beloved Beeb PR machine trundled the pro-Heath apologists out to show what a good egg he was, and seemed to completely ignore the police investigation(s).
A similar thing is happening around the late Ted Heath. As soon as the accusations start flying (is it 5 or 7 police forces investigating him?), our beloved Beeb PR machine trundled the pro-Heath apologists out to show what a good egg he was, and seemed to completely ignore the police investigation(s).
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rebbonk
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:26 pm
And now we start seeing the wriggling and delaying tactics... Quote: A High Court judge is to consider whether it was unlawful to order Lord Janner to appear in court in person to face child sex abuse charges dating from the 1960s to the 1980s.
On Friday Westminster magistrates ruled the former Labour peer, 87, must appear in person for a hearing on the charges.
Lawyers acting for Lord Janner, who has dementia and denies the charges, argued he was too ill to attend court. BBCFor a man stricken by Altzheimers I find it amazing. Might I enquire how was he able to instruct his Brief, or did someone do it for him? Looks like the magistrate isn't too happy... Quote: Lord Janner could be arrested if he fails to attend court over child sex abuse claims Magistrate warns warrant could be issued for arrest of former Labour peer as lawyers appeal ruling the 87-year-old must attend in person TelegraphI still think this stinks. I have no idea if Janner committed the alleged crimes or not. - Only a court can decide that, just as only a court can decide if he is fit to plea or not. I still think all this wriggling and squirming is not about Janner, but is really about covering up for the Establishment. Of course, the mild cynic in me thinks that 'they're' hoping he pops his cloggs before ever setting foot inside a court room, hence any tactic they can use to delay things. The true cynic in me thinks that Mr Janner may meet with an unfortunate, but fatal, accident should these delaying tactics not be successful.
And now we start seeing the wriggling and delaying tactics...
[quote]A High Court judge is to consider whether it was unlawful to order Lord Janner to appear in court in person to face child sex abuse charges dating from the 1960s to the 1980s.
On Friday Westminster magistrates ruled the former Labour peer, 87, must appear in person for a hearing on the charges.
Lawyers acting for Lord Janner, who has dementia and denies the charges, argued he was too ill to attend court. [/quote]
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33863435]BBC[/url]
For a man stricken by Altzheimers I find it amazing. Might I enquire how was he able to instruct his Brief, or did someone do it for him?
Looks like the magistrate isn't too happy...
[quote]Lord Janner could be arrested if he fails to attend court over child sex abuse claims Magistrate warns warrant could be issued for arrest of former Labour peer as lawyers appeal ruling the 87-year-old must attend in person [/quote]
[url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11796109/Lord-Janner-could-avoid-attending-court-over-child-sex-abuse-claims.html]Telegraph[/url]
I still think this stinks.
I have no idea if Janner committed the alleged crimes or not. - Only a court can decide that, just as only a court can decide if he is fit to plea or not. I still think all this wriggling and squirming is not about Janner, but is really about covering up for the Establishment.
Of course, the mild cynic in me thinks that 'they're' hoping he pops his cloggs before ever setting foot inside a court room, hence any tactic they can use to delay things.
The true cynic in me thinks that Mr Janner may meet with an unfortunate, but fatal, accident should these delaying tactics not be successful.
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rebbonk
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:31 am
Confirmation that Janner is to face the courts... Quote: Lord Janner will be prosecuted over claims of historical sex abuse after a review overturned a CPS decision. Source: BBCThough I'm still thinking he'll be found unfit to plead, at least the 'facts' will be examined in an open court.
Confirmation that Janner is to face the courts...
[quote]Lord Janner will be prosecuted over claims of historical sex abuse after a review overturned a CPS decision.[/quote]
Source: [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33310095]BBC[/url]
Though I'm still thinking he'll be found unfit to plead, at least the 'facts' will be examined in an open court.
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rebbonk
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:29 pm
Ooh, looks interesting (and hopeful)... Quote: The decision not to prosecute Greville Janner for historical child sex offences is to be overturned, according to reports.
A barrister who has spent several weeks examining the evidence as part of an independent review has concluded there should be a hearing of the allegations Guardian
Ooh, looks interesting (and hopeful)...
[quote]The decision not to prosecute Greville Janner for historical child sex offences is to be overturned, according to reports.
A barrister who has spent several weeks examining the evidence as part of an independent review has concluded there should be a hearing of the allegations[/quote]
[url=http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/26/cps-decision-not-to-prosecute-lord-janner-to-be-overturned]Guardian[/url]
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rebbonk
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:48 am
It continues, though perhaps Janner can feel the noose tightening a little? - The 'evidence' does seem to be mounting against him. BBC
It continues, though perhaps Janner can feel the noose tightening a little? - The 'evidence' does seem to be mounting against him.
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33243782]BBC[/url]
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Lex
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:13 pm
Yep, it's getting whiffier all the time!
Yep, it's getting whiffier all the time!
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rebbonk
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:24 pm
Now we really are having our noses rubbed in it! Can go walkabout, can face trial! http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/579760/Lord-Janner-spotted-London-dementia-child-sex-abuseQuote: Janner was diagnosed with dementia in 2009, after which he gave power of attorney to his three children.
However, it has emerged that he has voted in the House of Lords 203 times since then.
Also since his diagnosis, he has claimed more than £100,000 in allowances, was appointed to a parliamentary committee last year, and served as a company director until six days before the DPP's ruling.
Now we really are having our noses rubbed in it! Can go walkabout, can face trial!
[url]http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/579760/Lord-Janner-spotted-London-dementia-child-sex-abuse[/url]
[quote]Janner was diagnosed with dementia in 2009, after which he gave power of attorney to his three children.
However, it has emerged that he has voted in the House of Lords 203 times since then.
Also since his diagnosis, he has claimed more than £100,000 in allowances, was appointed to a parliamentary committee last year, and served as a company director until six days before the DPP's ruling.[/quote]
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rebbonk
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 9:35 pm
Janner's not the first... http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/15/tory-mp-victor-montagu-escaped-child-sex-abuse-trial-in-1970sAnd I have no doubt he won't be the last! It is all so deeply embedded in the 'establishment' that the truth will never be fully known. This goes all the way to the very top.
Janner's not the first...
[url]http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/15/tory-mp-victor-montagu-escaped-child-sex-abuse-trial-in-1970s[/url]
And I have no doubt he won't be the last!
It is all so deeply embedded in the 'establishment' that the truth will never be fully known. This goes all the way to the very top.
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