Warwick Mop

[Toad]

It's also worth mentioning to your unregistered contributor that the chamber of trade does not run the Victorian Evening, it helps in the running - and it attracts about 800% more people than the mop! How many shops stay open for the mop - not many because they are too frightened of being targetted by the yobs that the mop attracts. Most of the shops stay open for the VE.

[Madhatter]

I'm offended by unregistered accusing me of being biased. I am not biased against any fair, but you have to take in to account that a lot of things have changed over the years. The fair has changed, the people running it, the rides, the music, the power supply, The town has changed, the shops, the owners, the customers, the streets, pedestrian zones, car parking, street furniture. You can't have all that change, carry on as if it was 800 yrs ago and expect no one to complain. You're lucky your allowed to have the fair in the town centre with all this health and safety obsession.
In fact I am biased towards the fairs, and my family have done a bit to help fairs over the years.
Atherstone has created a dickens night that has a real fair with modern rides as well as traditional, The carnival also now has a proper fair instead of the carnival paying for mickey mouse market day rides that can't be bothered to turn up n let the kids down. Unfortunately it was a washout last year but the fair will be back this.

Fairs provide entertainment for all ages and can leave lasting memories of a magical childhood, I remember Atherstone carnival fair from when I was a child very well indeed.
However my friends sister has the opposite because she was set upon by a gang of yobs and a girl beat her badly while she had to watch. She's never been to a fair since and won't let her children. That is unacceptable and fairs need to work with others to stop that sort of behaviour.

Is it really necessary to have generators in the street?

GET A LIFE YOU LOAD OF KILL JOYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Warwick Mop will be in the streets for many many YEARS TO COME for generations of children to ENJOY!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by chillitt

the mop takes over swan street, brook st the marketplace market st new street and the car parks in new st and brook st from thursday 4 pm till some point on sunday. this is over 2 weekends. during this time no shops on those streets can take deliveries in, or send anything out unless they can carry it some distance.
while the mop was on last week diesel fumes made the market place and my shop just off it a health hazzard. i had to shut the shop because the staff we getting woozy.
it differs from any other event in that there seems to be zero consideration to health and safety or disruption to locals.
it gets away with it because they have a 'charter' which i believe states they pay a few quid a year for the trouble the cause, but it literally a few quid.
they claim to be traditional, in that originally the first mop was a hiring fair where all the local lads would find gainful employ, and the second mop is the 'runaway fair' where if these lads didn't like their new job, they got a second go. quite what that has to do with deisel generators, candy floss and 'bent' try your luck games i have no idea. my shop hasn't changed for 111 years, thats traditional, but it doesn't stop them running a tatfest on the pavement outside.
usually the town starts to return to normal on the monday after the second mop, litter blows round the town for another few days while the council chaps chase it, the oil and other stains are gradually washed way, and blood pressures return to normal. i am not a fan.

Bribed or threatened. Get real you ediot. Warwick Mop has a charter going back hundreds of years and the council nor you can do nothing about it. It would take an act of parliment to get the Mop moved and thats not going to happen. So go and crawl back under the stone that you came from under and STOP THERE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by chillitt

i have to say, upsetting the showmans guild isn't too far up my list of priorities, and i cant see why it should be on the councils list either. unless they are being bribed or threatened by them...

Shove the Chamber of trade were the SUN DOESNT SHINE.

Originally Posted by Toad

Good idea but Chamber tried that. They are not memebers of the dreaded, feared Showmans Guild!!

But, more news, apparently the local council are so worried by the violence that the mop attracted that they are reviewing what can be changed for next year.
There is hope for change yet, and the Chamber of Trade are leading the way - again.

[chillitt]

Some interesting points, er.. reg, (can I call you reg?) well presented. Thanks for clearing that up. hmm..... I smell candy floss diesel and cheap burgers...

hmm as i understand people are entitled to their opinion there are a lot of untrue things said on here especially about the showmens guild,they are not run by a bunch of gangsters as someone seems to think,as for the apparent violence where on earth are the police but nobody seems to be having a go about them.dont you have violence on youre streets on any normal weekend night then?maybe warwick council should take a leaf out of neath porttalbot councils books who part run great fair which also has a charter going back 850 years,the council have erected new lampposts with power points and underground hidden power points which can be lowered and raised when needed,youll find no generators in that town center,perhaps you could check youre facts before present such ill informed nonsense.

dear toad and chillit,where do you get your facts from the daily sport!!!as has been pointed out the only thing that can stop a ROYAL charter is an act of parliament which is supported by mps then voted for in the house of lords.as for bribary this is what you are doing by using lies to get people to support youre pointless demonstration,also the showmens guild pay lots of rent to be there for the mop which increases each year above inflation,this rent goes a long way towards the councils spending budget.how would you feel if youre taxes shot up as a result of the mop being stopped somehow,i wonder.

All those in favour ..... See you their.

All those against .... Close down your shops, get a life in a field milking cows, change your surname to " Killjoy " and wither away peacefully.

Iv'e read some crap in my time but this takes the biscuit.

These people are moaning and making accusations simply because they can't get their own way. I bet you guys have NEVER done anything wrong in your ENTIRE LIVES. Not even too messing with the tax returns....... YEAH RIGHT.

Stop moaning and think about the money thats put into the town because of the MOP.......Ahhhh, that could be the problem, It's put into the town and not your greedy little pockets.
I bet if you were allowed to charge a showman a couple of grand to set up outside your premisses you would bring him tea and biccys all day.....LOL, you sad sad people.



Fred

[chillitt]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hmm as i understand people are entitled to their opinion there are a lot of untrue things said on here especially about the showmens guild,they are not run by a bunch of gangsters as someone seems to think,as for the apparent violence where on earth are the police but nobody seems to be having a go about them.dont you have violence on youre streets on any normal weekend night then?maybe warwick council should take a leaf out of neath porttalbot councils books who part run great fair which also has a charter going back 850 years,the council have erected new lampposts with power points and underground hidden power points which can be lowered and raised when needed,youll find no generators in that town center,perhaps you could check youre facts before present such ill informed nonsense.

Warwick town centre has the very same power points that are hidden under man holes for your convienience. yet we still the generators.