Warwick Mop - Page 13

chillitt · 21-10-2007, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

If you really want a few sleepless nights request the charter and the mop review notes under the freedom of information act - you will be amazed at what has been swept under the carpet!

Do you know I just might do that....
As a matter of interest, once information has been 'freed' can I do what I like with it, Like publishing it, as a leaflet?

Toad · 21-10-2007, 09:11 PM

Yes, it's in the public domain and you can do as you wish. Contact Warwick District Council's amenities department, ask for Ian Coker. Or ask Adrian Field, our town centre manager. Either will arrange for all the relevant documents to be copied to you. Ask for a copy of the charter, the legal opinion that was obtained about the status of the mop and the mop review notes. Settle back with a bottle of wine - and be amazed at how we have been conned!!

Madhatter · 22-10-2007, 02:02 AM

Racism, qualifications, charters blah blah blah. If its a new ride they're going to get training from the ride manufacturer, they need to know how the thing goes together, safety checks, maintenance program. Have you any idea how much new rides actually cost?
They then show others how to do, that the equivalent of an apprenticeship.
FACT these rides are safer than Alton Towers, they are checked as they are set up, Alton Towers are checked once a year. For example... A bolt on a ride is wearing, on a travelling fair its spotted as its set up and replaced, at Alton towers it's not spotted for a year, that's if it's spotted at all. On a travelling fair people with years of experience are running these rides, or at the very least nearby. At Alton towers it's mostly seasonal jobs, they have little experience and little interest in the job they do, it's a job not a livelihood.

Criticising what just isn't true isn't going to fix the problems. Why don't you find out through the correct channels why you wasn't allowed in when you should have had access. A road closure is a legal thing, it's illegal to close or obstruct a road without authority to do so. The order should say when it starts and finishes.

chillitt · 22-10-2007, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madhatter

Criticising what just isn't true isn't going to fix the problems. Why don't you find out through the correct channels why you wasn't allowed in when you should have had access. A road closure is a legal thing, it's illegal to close or obstruct a road without authority to do so. The order should say when it starts and finishes.

when there is a psco standing by the 'blockade' saying 'We have handed the town over now, there's nothing we can do..etc' then it knock my faith in the authorities..
As for The Correct Channels, who would you suggest? no one is prepared to stand up and say 'We run this,' and involve the locals at all.

Toad · 26-10-2007, 08:45 PM

Why would they want to involve the locals - far too simple!
Never mind, they are gone tomorrow and we can count the cost and get on with our lives.

chillitt · 26-10-2007, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toad

Why would they want to involve the locals - far too simple!
Never mind, they are gone tomorrow and we can count the cost and get on with our lives.

Just as long as they don't wipe out anymore lamp posts, and turn the towns electricity off again on the way out...

27-10-2007, 09:05 AM

I have been informed the town centre has had a number of power cuts this year and I was there when yesterdays happened. As the lights went out and the alarms sounded the showman I was talking to remarked 'I wonder how long it will be before we get the blame for this?'. I guess now I can inform him it was less than twelve hours afterwards and that my prediction of it being an 'unnamed' shopkeeper was correct.

Its a shame the mop is the only thing leaving town today!

27-10-2007, 12:31 PM

With one phone call to the electricity supplier, it was possible to ascertain that the power cut was caused by a cable fault on an over head pylon out of town. This fault knocked out the supply to just over three thousand properties.

Is this just becoming a case of you blaming the mop for everything, however unrelated or fictitious it may be?

chillitt · 27-10-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered

With one phone call to the electricity supplier, it was possible to ascertain that the power cut was caused by a cable fault on an over head pylon out of town. This fault knocked out the supply to just over three thousand properties.

Is this just becoming a case of you blaming the mop for everything, however unrelated or fictitious it may be?

No, but a power cut while the mop chaps were wandering about with huge 'extension leads' and moving lorries about, It was quite believable at the time...I was told by someone who said they saw it, that a lorry knocked a lamp post over.(I was also told that it was down to someone trying to rig the wires for the mop to the council power points, but chose not to place too much credence in that one)
Incidentally, you have also said repeatedly there is a charter, but still haven't backed that up.
Yours from a shopkeeper who has closed up early(again) because it isn't worth being there while the mops on.

BTW have a nice year, maybe we will see you next year

Toad · 28-10-2007, 07:26 PM

Yeah, we were blacked out as well. Haven't a clue why. Just added a bit more misery to the last two weeks. I'm off tomorrow to explain to the bank manager why we need a bigger overdraft - luckily he lives in Warwick and appreciates the problems, unlike most of the people who want to keep it - strange that!
Chillitt, use the freedom of information act to get the review papers. I know of at least three other businesses who have applied for them. You CAN make a difference!

22-10-2007, 02:02 AM	#123 (permalink)
Madhatter Chatterbox Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Atherstone Posts: 398	Racism, qualifications, charters blah blah blah. If its a new ride they're going to get training from the ride manufacturer, they need to know how the thing goes together, safety checks, maintenance program. Have you any idea how much new rides actually cost? They then show others how to do, that the equivalent of an apprenticeship. FACT these rides are safer than Alton Towers, they are checked as they are set up, Alton Towers are checked once a year. For example... A bolt on a ride is wearing, on a travelling fair its spotted as its set up and replaced, at Alton towers it's not spotted for a year, that's if it's spotted at all. On a travelling fair people with years of experience are running these rides, or at the very least nearby. At Alton towers it's mostly seasonal jobs, they have little experience and little interest in the job they do, it's a job not a livelihood. Criticising what just isn't true isn't going to fix the problems. Why don't you find out through the correct channels why you wasn't allowed in when you should have had access. A road closure is a legal thing, it's illegal to close or obstruct a road without authority to do so. The order should say when it starts and finishes. __________________ Madhatter

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21-10-2007, 09:11 PM	#122 (permalink)
Toad Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warwick Posts: 52	Yes, it's in the public domain and you can do as you wish. Contact Warwick District Council's amenities department, ask for Ian Coker. Or ask Adrian Field, our town centre manager. Either will arrange for all the relevant documents to be copied to you. Ask for a copy of the charter, the legal opinion that was obtained about the status of the mop and the mop review notes. Settle back with a bottle of wine - and be amazed at how we have been conned!!

26-10-2007, 08:45 PM	#125 (permalink)
Toad Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warwick Posts: 52	Why would they want to involve the locals - far too simple! Never mind, they are gone tomorrow and we can count the cost and get on with our lives.

27-10-2007, 09:05 AM	#127 (permalink)
Unregistered Posts: n/a	I have been informed the town centre has had a number of power cuts this year and I was there when yesterdays happened. As the lights went out and the alarms sounded the showman I was talking to remarked 'I wonder how long it will be before we get the blame for this?'. I guess now I can inform him it was less than twelve hours afterwards and that my prediction of it being an 'unnamed' shopkeeper was correct. Its a shame the mop is the only thing leaving town today!

27-10-2007, 12:31 PM	#128 (permalink)
Unregistered Posts: n/a	With one phone call to the electricity supplier, it was possible to ascertain that the power cut was caused by a cable fault on an over head pylon out of town. This fault knocked out the supply to just over three thousand properties. Is this just becoming a case of you blaming the mop for everything, however unrelated or fictitious it may be?

28-10-2007, 07:26 PM	#130 (permalink)
Toad Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warwick Posts: 52	Yeah, we were blacked out as well. Haven't a clue why. Just added a bit more misery to the last two weeks. I'm off tomorrow to explain to the bank manager why we need a bigger overdraft - luckily he lives in Warwick and appreciates the problems, unlike most of the people who want to keep it - strange that! Chillitt, use the freedom of information act to get the review papers. I know of at least three other businesses who have applied for them. You CAN make a difference!