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[Mari]

Talking about ethnic groups, I wonder what the Polish population is in Leamington , also Sikhs and Muslims etc.
Anyone know ?


Thanks.

I have actually been told by one of my colleagues, who is Polish himself, that it is quite normal in Poland for guys to get into a fight at then end of the night. It is a sort of "proving you are a man" thing (his words not mine!).
So I can see why it might be a bit extreme for C. to claim this is just done by Polish men, but just thought I'd share this story with you
Personally I don't really see a lot of trouble when I'm out in Stratford, I just get annoyed how bad the places to go in town are!

Sam

[sarazinha]

Originally Posted by Madhatter

The answer is simple stop them coming here. They're taking our jobs, our women and then start fights . If this government did something about the amount of dole dossing scroungers and single parents that can't even be bothered to look for work(yes I know it's very hard to find a part time job AND one that pays enough to make it worth while, but they are out there, we wouldn't need foreigners coming to this country to take our jobs houses, flats and women. They come here during the summer mostly, only stay 6 months and some even have TWO full time jobs. They collect as much cash as they can the go back.
I suspect as they have no intention of settling here they don't care what trouble they cause.

It's not a racist opinion either , it is fact, and as I have no objection to poles coming here to settle and integrate, learn the language so that my tax isn't spent on having everything printed in 20 different languages, it can't be racist. I have no objection but just coming here to get what they can then go back takes the

Right. I am nobody's 'woman to take', and resent such a sexist comment. If someone wants to work hard in 2 full time jobs, good for them if they're paying into our NI and tax system! If it's cash in hand - it's the employer that needs prosecuting, not them. Your comments ARE racist, making generalisations like that.

[kazhugs]

Eastern Europeans and other Europeans come here to earn an honest living, just as the Irish did before them. My feeling is that Britain has become a lounging society with many, many people claiming the dole without truly seeking work. It is the British people that have become idle leaving Eastern Europeans etc to fill the gap.
Kaz

[cathidaw]

Most of the people I meet from'abroad' have come here to earn an honest living-perhaps to send money home to their country and someday hope to go home again. Ido not see any wrong in that.They work hard -a lot harder than some of us.They really earn their money be it a pittance compared with what we would expect.
The jobs they do would not be taken up by 'our' people for that money.
The majority of complaints about these incomers are from people on the dole who are saying 'these foreigners have taken our jobs.'.
If they wanted the jobs -they are there for them, at low wages of course but it is usually made up by government payments to a better level.But ,so many people have been out of work and on social security or dole money for so long it is easier not to bother. I know quite a few who, as teenagers never had jobs, and are now grown up and still haven't worked , I dont think they could cope with a job.
It should be compulsory to either go on to either secondary/further education
or have a job or apprenticeship lined up.
Otherwise they should get no money--or maybe no choice.

[Dexter]

Firstly ..I have absolutely no problem with the Eastern Europeans who have come here to work..I'd do the same if I was them..A bit like the brits who went to Saudi in the 70's..Earn a shed load of money under pretty grim conditions but then go home with enough dosh to buy a house outright.

What I do have a problem is the system which we as a society seem to have accepted in the UK..namely that a large proportion of the work force go to work pay taxes etc (this includes the migrant work force)..A proportion of this money goes to enable another section of society to sit at home and not work because "they won't do the jobs". I don't think this system where whole "shameless" style of living is condusive to a good society.

I do not disagree that they work hard, but I also think it is having a negative effect on our economy if migrant workers send part of their wages home instead of putting it back into our economy.

I do agree with some of you saying they are causing "tension". I am more concerned about some of their mentalities and their reluctance to integrate into the English culture. Quite a few (not all of them, don't get me wrong) cannot be bothered to learn the English language, only socialise with people from their home country and create a rather uncomfortable atmosphere between the local community and themselves.

[David1976]

It's probably that we English have a notorious reputation for exactly the same behaviour so foreigners think it's normal to fight in England.

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[ronlyre]

Can I thank the above members (especially Madhatter) who have contributed to this particular thread. I haven't laughed so much in years. Madhatter's comments regarding Poles coming over here and...and...(holds sides to stop them splitting) and stealing our women is totally wonderful, I haven't heard anything like that since, what 1953? I wish I'd noticed this thread when it first saw the light of day. Brilliant.
Anyway, I just wanted to say that I'm privileged to work with (what we in the business call) the emerging communities (Polish, Portuguese etc) and don't recognise any of the rubbish above. I suggest that one antidote to the fears that some people are expressing above would be to get out more. Go and meet some of these women stealers, strike up conversation, sign language can be fun, buy each other drinks, discuss politics, laugh, joke, getalife.

Oh yes, for all those 'why won't they learn English' people. Most of the Poles I come across speak two or three languages and those who don't were very ready, willing and able to go to ESOL (English Second language) classes, that is until a recent change in the law made them far too expensive.

[Sue MDH]

They would appear to be mimicking the British...