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    I really don't know what the fuss about the NI backstop is all about, it'll only come into force of the UK can't agree a trade deal with the EU (negotiations for which haven't started yet, all the palaver over the last 3 years is the the withdrawal treaty): https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49427674

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    I think there's a train of thought that it gives the upper hand in future negotiations to the EU and possibly is a disincentive to them to strike a deal.

    I still have thoughts that we won't actually leave
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    Makes sense, I'd not heard that.

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    Didn't John Major Prorogue Parliament in 1997 or thereabouts?

    It looks as thought Boris will get his way with suspending Parliament and the Queen is to make a speech on Oct 14th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by margaret View Post
    Didn't John Major Prorogue Parliament in 1997 or thereabouts?
    He did. IIRC it was to stop a report on his sleaze ridden government being published. And of course his faux outrage at Boris' actions makes him a bl**dy great hypocrite.

    I can't say I'm happy at what I see Boris doing here. One of the reasons for leaving the EU is to bring control back to our Parliament. This seems a rather hypocritical and cynical move.
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    Whichever way it was going to turn, democracy was going to be sidelined. Comrade Corbyn was effectively trying to use Parliamentary procedure to stage a coup by forming a 'Government of National Unity' to lever himself into power & cancel Brexit full stop.
    Last edited by Lex; 29-08-2019 at 06:06 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Absolutely right Lex, democracy is always the first casualty. - History shows that quite clearly.
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    Fan-bloody-tastic. Our elected representatives can't be bothered even paying lip service to democracy any more. So much for the will of the people.

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    We certainly live in interesting times.

    I'd like to say that I think all of these shenanigans will result in substantial changes to our political system, but I'll not go holding my breath.

    For a long time I've believed that our democracy is an illusion, nothing is really challenging that view.
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    There'll be no change - too much self serving & too many vested interests.

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    Bank of England: No-deal Brexit not as bad as we predicted





    https://www.eagleradio.co.uk/news/uk...3_b0GgoRj7DOE0

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    The Lisbon Treaty.Very sinister stuff.




    https://www.facebook.com/10000947079...7786578547012/
    Last edited by margaret; 13-09-2019 at 07:03 AM.

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    Well, that's that done & dusted; it's just got to get past the idiots in Parliament now: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50079385

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    It'll never pass, it's worse than May's 'deal'!
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    As a brexiteer, I have to say that I'm truly disgusted by what appears to be extremely bad grace from Johnson, sending an unsigned letter to the EU: plus another letter basically asking for them to not agree an extension.

    I want out, but it must be done via Parliament: let's face it, one of our reasons for leaving was to take back control. I really don't like underhand politics like this and I pray that this is not what the future holds.
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    Is anyone in the mood for an election near Christmas?

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