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    Whilst I might be inclined to agree with him, let's not forget he was a fanatical remainer. - The BBC aren't always totally honest and impartial.

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    That seems to have been the case with the BBC for some years now; I've gradually started moving to other news providers.

    Things aren't going too smoothly this side of the Channel either: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-40868557

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    'The UK's alternative proposal - a more efficient system of border checks - would involve "an increase in administration", it admits.'

    A more efficient system that's more bureaucratic at the same time. Nice trick.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40922177

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    They were discussing using technology on a programme I was watching yesterday. The very idea filled me with dread: government IT systems aren't exactly noted for their efficiencies or for being delivered on time and within budget.

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    There's also been talk of the 'soft' border between the Republic & Ulster being used as a back door for illegal immigration. Took 'em a while to spot what was obvious to everyone else didn't it?

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    People will probably be able to fiddle the government's proposed new tariff/border controls quite easily as well (take note as well, Ms Sturgeon!)

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    The UK's position is slowly coming into the light: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40997985

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    With the people we have 'negotiating' we're going to get a real bum deal, and not one that will satisfy those of us that voted to leave.

    I'm hardening my attitude daily and am becoming more of the mind that we should halt all discussions and simply walk away. The EU needs us far more than we need them.

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    A bit of a stalemate at the minute. I'd put money on the British delegation blinking 1st: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41127799

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    We're stuffed on any negotiation as any one of the other countries could scupper a deal.

    My view is that we ought simply withdraw from negotiations and tell them that we will leave 2 years after we gave them notice. - No further contact.

    Withdraw the team from Brussels and deploy them negotiating deals with other countries.

    As the final date draws near, the truth will dawn on Brussels. They need us! They'll then be far more amenable as both France and Germany will be facing heavy expenditure to replace us, coupled with the loss of a significant market.

    The UK is in a far stronger position than many (BBC included) seem to realise. We don't need to give in to the bullying EU, we just need to sit it out.

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    [SIZE=4]We're not going to go anywhere any good with these fools negotiating.I believe both sides of our government should get together and decide between themselves how to go on.
    After all, weren't they too, democratically voted in by nearly half of us, and shouldn't they have a say?
    Belligerence will get us nowhere, and Teresa's attitude - even if they liked her wouldn't help. Doesn't even know the word 'tact'.
    She's blinded by her position. and is the wrong person to be there-she was a remainer and it is clear-whatever she says, she still is. Like a spoilt child she want's HER own way. and is doing her utmost to be awkward.
    David Davies is just as bad-all false smiles and as thick skinned as his boss.
    This is too big a thing to allow them to continue.
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    If the EU wants money of the UK for walking out on them, perhaps our shares in the EIB can be signed over to them: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41774817

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    What a farce. Theresa May cocks up by calling the election & losing the Tories their majority, leaving the government in hock to the DUP, meaning the UK's going to get shafted by the EU & will be left in the cesspit for generations to come.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42225755

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42217735

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    Treason May is without doubt the most useless, inept, PM within living memory; or she's more devious than I gave her credit for.

    Surely after this fiasco she must go...?

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    Comrade Corbyn looks favourite if we have to have another election; the Conservatives only seem to have a bunch of cretins lining up behind the current PM.

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    Whilst I'm willing to admit my earlier thoughts about Corbyn have been proven to be incorrect, I just don't see a credible Labour party coming to the fore.

    This country has a very poor choice when it comes to politicians and until more people get involved and rout the dross, things aren't going to change.

    Of the 650 MPs we have, the vast majority are simply unemployable outside the walls of Westminster.

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