The Skylark

[jobee]

Originally Posted by optrex

You need to put his quotes in context Jobee. Einstein very clearly believed in God.

He recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe and this actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist:

"I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details."

Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed.

A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Your quoting Hitler in that last couple of lines- here is Einstein at his best
fighting to stave off those lying- posers-murderous- power mad- pimping-
-sly-paedophilic- 'BONE' idle 'BUMS' and punks-no good to humanity what so ever-who wouldent know the truth if it smacked them in the face-----

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
[Albert Einstein, 1954, from "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press]

praying IS stupid-j

[chillitt]

Originally Posted by jobee

ok chillet ive already said"there is no up or down in the universe" where do you think heaven exists-AS -portrayed by the church.

my conception of heaven IS- you die -you know nothing-equals paradise-
ALL church leaders throughout the world are con men

clearly you dont have to die to know nothing.... you still haven't proved there is no heaven.. do you want to try prove there is no god, instead?

[jobee]

Originally Posted by chillitt

clearly you dont have to die to know nothing.... you still haven't proved there is no heaven.. do you want to try prove there is no god, instead?

yes there is heaven- ive just told you 'to know nothing is paradise-what did you know before you were born-NOTHING- to know and feel nothing is paradise- to know nothing is heaven-ALL church admin are posers-liars-and just making a living-the best way forward for humanity is to forget god--

[chillitt]

Originally Posted by jobee

to know nothing is paradise-

M'lud, the prosecution rests....

[optrex]

Originally Posted by jobee

Your quoting Hitler in that last couple of lines-

What planet are you on?

[optrex]

Of course, its what you fail to omit that is most relevant.

AE in childhood was a devout Jew. He even took lessons to combat the Christian teachings of his schooling. As he discovered science, he discarded his religon, but not his faith. HE ALWAYS BELIEVED IN GOD !!!!!

Then, the most important aspect that you fail to mention, he returned to his faith in later life, mainly due to the effects of WW2.

[jobee]

Originally Posted by optrex

You need to put his quotes in context Jobee. Einstein very clearly believed in God.

He recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe and this actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist:

"I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details."

Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed.

A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

Optrex-the church told lies about einstein-as they are telling lies about lots of things INCLUDING tax exemptions ----08450-302-0203

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
[Albert Einstein, 1954, from "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press]

praying IS stupid-j

[jobee]

Originally Posted by chillitt

clearly you dont have to die to know nothing.... you still haven't proved there is no heaven.. do you want to try prove there is no god, instead?

Indeed-the only way your going to find out if god and heaven exist IS
to die-i cannot see any use in postulating and advocating it as truth down here without a 'great deal' more proof than already exists-indeed after that
huge psunami several priests did resign as it was substantial proof that a 'caring' god does not exist-

[Madhatter]

Dunno why you care so much as to feel the need to go round pushing your views on other people. You remind me of erm, yes a witness knocking at my door, keeping me talking so that my tea goes cold.
You'll be telling me father christmas doesn't exist next.

[jobee]

Originally Posted by optrex

What planet are you on?

I am on the 'dying' planet called earth-but the church wont tell its 'customers'
the planet is dying it might affect their income-