cathidaw i agree with the 7 o'clock time as thats really late enough for my two. and i will have to take a look at clubs. thanks for the idea.
My opinion is that people who run pubs need to be very clear in their minds about what direction they want to take their business in, make it clear and obvious to the customers what sort of place it is, and they should stick to it. Nothing worse than these places that are half-hearted about what they are, that just results in potentially spoiling everybody's enjoyment. People wanting a quiet drink or adult time get cross to find kids present.... families find themselves getting in trouble about a bit of noise.... That's just rubbish and shouldn't happen. It's just because the landlord can't be bothered to create a proper identity. I'd love to believe that ultimately it's landlords like that who will suffer for their slack attitude to their business but we will just have to wait and see.
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